 LordTrey
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Date: July 29, 2005 @ 10:56 PM
Well my man you have done it once again..Great lyrics..wonderful percussion track and great guitar playing..It has such a great acoustical sound and the percussion is not overdone..Like it whole lot Gene...U definately outdid Neon Moon on this one..Keep em coming dawg...Absolutely wondeful and ur right..The storm track at the end is incredible
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 Ghostie
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Date: July 30, 2005 @ 9:37 AM
Another great song!! It all comes together to a  ending!
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 EllyKellner
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Date: July 30, 2005 @ 1:53 PM
Great sounding tune, very peaceful. I've just been walking in the summerrain so it is very appropriate!
"I think I'll have a little talk with a cloud..." Fantastic lyric if I heard it correctly!
Thumbs up 
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mystery-machine
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Date: July 31, 2005 @ 12:58 AM
This song is PDcool just like a summer rain!  Love the acoustic guitar work in this and your vocals are great!  I agree with Ghost3 , the ending IS ... Awesome Track!
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 sinai
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Date: July 31, 2005 @ 10:09 AM
yeah, this is a really cool tune, with some sweet lyrics 
sets up some really nice rhythmns and melodies...i can diggit 
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MonnieB
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Date: July 31, 2005 @ 2:30 PM
Wow... Just... Wow, man... Beeeeeautiful music and greeeeeaaaaaaaaat lyrics... Gods, i wish i could write stuff this good... Rocketh the socks!! This is awesome and well made and produced...
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 shutyatrap
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Date: July 31, 2005 @ 8:51 PM
Mate I am blown away by this track. A track that I could not help but listen to again straight after my first listen. I agree that the ending is such a cool way to end this inspiring track. This track will be in my head now for hours. Very catchy and fantastic production. I can only imagine how much work you must have put into the quality of this track. Thanks man!!!
Steve
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evansorchid
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Date: August 1, 2005 @ 12:28 AM
Fantastic song!!!!! The production is awesome. Your voice is outstanding. The quality of all the instruments is superb. Something about this reminds me of being a kid and playing with toy battleships in a tub.
 I'm blown away. 
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zedsalt
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Date: August 1, 2005 @ 11:37 AM
This puts me in mind of some of the recent Eels stuff, Willard Grant Conspiracy, Jorma Kaukonen’s solo work, Lambchop...it has that sort of off-kilter storyteller quality to it, like anecdotes from an uncle who’s gone a bit odd. The High Art of Creating an Atmosphere abounds here.
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jd2theog
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Date: August 1, 2005 @ 8:49 PM
great job on this track
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shadowjack
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Date: August 1, 2005 @ 9:45 PM
Good song, nice arrangement and sing-alongable! 
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farfor44
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Date: August 1, 2005 @ 11:54 PM
Once again I'am so pleased with every ones commentsBecause I listen to music created by each of you,I feel I know all of you personally.Through Music&other forms of art we reveal our souls to each other and the kinship is
Divine You see I am but one piece of the picture puzzle that Monnie
refers to in her music"Puzzle Pieces"
I have confidence that my piece will fit perfectlythank you all so much
 hug:
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Rodrica
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Date: August 3, 2005 @ 4:58 PM
This is excellent! Shades of the psychedelic era...trippy, chill-out vibe, laid back groove. I love that sound  very rich and sounds just like a live performance...a rare gem amongest today's digital recording. The ending is fantastic...a great way to round off a captivating song! Awesome!
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 tsand19151
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Date: August 4, 2005 @ 7:05 PM
.... very nice track. perfect drums. in fact, all the instruments fit like a glove. Lovin the vocals... Must mention the mix as well. Just a wonderful job in every way....
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freddemillio
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Date: August 7, 2005 @ 6:02 AM
The rhythm is very pleasing: the combination of the drums / handclaps / guitar strums really sets a nice atmosphere for my ears. At first the fx on the were not my favorite, but as the piece evolved it grew on me and it seems to fit.
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MagneticFlui...
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Date: August 8, 2005 @ 12:21 AM
 This is awesome! The production is top-notch and this song shines in every way! Awesome vocals, awesome playing of the instruments, and awesome songwriting. THis is the good stuff! dig the ending too. 
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EvilPicnic
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Date: August 8, 2005 @ 1:45 PM
I really like the vocals - different without going too far and spoiling the inherent beauty. So simple and just... perfect in what it is. Unpretentious and well written. Overall, pretty damn good!
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Drift3r
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Date: August 8, 2005 @ 6:33 PM
I thought this song was really cool. I just love the rhythm. I love everything about it. The vocals were very cool sounding, the guitar and drums together where just kick ass!! Very well put together song. Very nice Job! Keep up the good work.
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farfor44
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Date: August 8, 2005 @ 7:31 PM
At this point I feel the need to
express a few feelings, and give some
credits where credits are due  first thank
Y U all for taking the time to listen Sence many have mentioned the skilled percussion work on this song,I must let you know Jd2theog played drumbs on this oneHe is such an innovative drummeractually hes an all around great musicianThank you so much for your great work
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ebarbarella
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Date: August 11, 2005 @ 1:49 PM
beautiful song ... love it! :hewartbeat: very nice lyrics, vocals and music is a  playlisted
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BlackMage
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Date: August 13, 2005 @ 8:07 PM
I like the guitar and the tone of it's. Very soothing all around. The vocals especially. You've mixed everything pretty good.
Only thing that I just couldn't feel fitting in, was the drums. It's clearly (well to me anyway) way too electronic for an acoustic piece. Plus they tend to go off-beat once in a while too. I can sympathize on that tho' (I had and still have problems with slow tempos) since some of the hits were quite some distance away from each other and the bigger the pause between a note, the harder it is to keep up the tempo.
So in summary... this song has very nice guitars and vocals, but the drums in pretty much anything I can't see fit (the sound is the first thing to make me think like this. I can't see an acoustic set fit on this either. Drums just don't sound good on this otherwise great piece) Normal set of percussions would fit much more better, but only if used very lightly. Everything in my humble opinion of course.
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farfor44
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Date: August 13, 2005 @ 11:27 PM
Love a critical review,no matter how out of place they seem to be
these are the kinds of things that drive us to take our music to the next levelThank you so much Lunitari..
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zique
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Date: August 17, 2005 @ 12:21 PM
I think everything fits really well here...Its slow but maintains a great groove.vocals fit the song very well.Nice guitar.love the arrangements,including vocal.
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BlueDeliverance
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Date: August 19, 2005 @ 11:34 PM
I'm lovin' the bass. You switch up the percussion a bit too, which is nice. Your backing vocals remind me of P.J. Olsson, which is really cool. The only thing that seemed out of place was the handclaps. They were too muddy.
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Engine11RDenny
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Date: August 26, 2005 @ 7:04 AM
 Definitely psychedelic  Like The Animals and T Rex  I love the warm feeling the bass gives like a washed out woodstock performance  its a good vibe The percussions take on the theme of the song they're 'raining'
And just like the little [Alice Cooperesq] narrative at the end - the drums are the building blocks of a song 
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GeneHilbert
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Date: August 28, 2005 @ 2:28 AM
Yeah.... I picked up that Hot Tuna vibe also..... a little Cat Stevens in there. It is a very kewl little piece. Produced and mixed well..... Maybe a more hippy like bongo part as apposed to the full kit.... but the kit works..... Vocals are good – you possess a unique vocal timbre - harmonies work well.
Kewl Tune - Good Job
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JaccoGardner
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Date: August 29, 2005 @ 6:14 AM
this is really really cool, very peaceful sound and those deep vocals with the nice bassy guitar are just a really nice combination, I very much enjoyed listening to this! thanks! and good job!
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Firefly
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Date: August 31, 2005 @ 5:04 AM
yet another great song. So mellow, great lyrics and really liked the vocals on this. wonderful tune, with some lovely sympathetic production as well. Nice harmonies. beautiful.
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 Swampman
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Date: August 31, 2005 @ 6:47 AM
Cool tune cuz has a celtic vibe to it
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FraDonaghy
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Date: September 11, 2005 @ 1:16 PM
Excellent laid back tune Vocals are particularly impressive, and production really does highlight the beauty of the song
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Burnthand
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Date: September 12, 2005 @ 6:09 PM
the best thing for me here in this song is the overall sound. I specially like the guitar. and the clap effect on the chorus is great. this is a very good job!!
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ryanwilliams
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Date: September 14, 2005 @ 8:12 PM
This song makes me long for the day I'll have the internet at home again so I can just throw it on and relax in it. It's got an awesome, relaxing feel to it. The ending, with the rain, was unexpected but very fitting. I can't wait to get this at home!
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hate9wicket
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Date: September 16, 2005 @ 11:38 PM
Cool song, gravelly voice, love the rain sample at the end and the chord progession on the chorus reminded me of "Satellite of Love" a little. I hear a JJ Cale and John Hiatt influence?
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Camay
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 8:00 AM
Wow, I didn't know what to expect but I most certainly wasn't expecting this!!!
The vocals, the percussion, the guitar (blew me away). I do agree with the fact that it has a 60/70's vibe to it but then that could just be me. I always felt like I grew up in the wrong era anyway. Janis Joplin IS one of my favorites!! I feel like Oliver...please sir I want some more
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realmouse
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Date: September 25, 2005 @ 2:26 AM
Nice song, I agree with the above comments. Sounz like wish bone ash.
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strum
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Date: October 4, 2005 @ 6:33 AM
ooo i like the guitar at the beginning
vocals just sound tooo ... authentic, sounds O so kewl
(am d/ling this for sure)
the clapping and all, really nice ideas here... well recorded too
the vocals are nice and deep, but not hoarse, i really like that, nice and soothing stuff here
the sounds at the end are pretty well mixed, but could be a li'l clearer on the vocals there
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CrispyBacon
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Date: October 5, 2005 @ 12:42 AM
Unique, reminds me of old school aussie rock like that "out on the patio we sit" thing, the declaimed singing is what mainly reminds me of that. The reverb and chorus (or was it just reverb *scratches head*) actually works to your advantage because it makes it sound like more of a group so its like a community waiting for the rain, love the effect (I'm often not a big fan of echo's on vocals). Like the sound effects of a rain and thunder . the ending 'vocals' are quite funny I dont know why... But they just strike me as some what humourous. Good job 9.2/10
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Traf
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Date: October 5, 2005 @ 5:55 PM
Incredible vocals..
I love the groove and timing of this...
That guitar and drums are so easy and relaxing..
Really like the laid back melody.
This really is good stuff...
Ending is cool..
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 Shizoku
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Date: October 5, 2005 @ 9:59 PM
Thi is a nice song. I like your low voice and the guitar melody between the singing is really nice. At first the drums seems a bit out of place, but they kept my foot tapping all the way through.
I like the water thing at the end a lot. xD
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marcosalvarez
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Date: October 8, 2005 @ 1:03 PM
what a voice treatment!!!i hardly can close my mouth
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GreatGooglyM...
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Date: October 9, 2005 @ 1:29 PM
Mmm... Gotta love the acoustic guitar. That repeating pattern is very nice. You know what? Your vocals sound a bit like Frank Zappa's. IMO, the production sounds a bit stuffed-up, but that's just my personal preference. I like the overall feel in this. Very good!
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anotherhugo
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Date: October 11, 2005 @ 12:35 PM
did you had other songs on, because your stile/voice sound formiliar. great song! very nice production. cool stile. bit 60's, little modern. the submarine will come to you one day. cool song!
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Hatsy
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Date: October 14, 2005 @ 7:49 PM
This is beautifully relaxing like sitting in the park in spring just before the blanched sun kicks in big time in June, peaceful and hypnotic, the guitar sounds sweet as a nut, the vocals are comforting and the sweet melody running through is like a meandering stream, ending on a thoughtful moment or two of spoken prose, surreal and original Thank you
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GTOriginal
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Date: October 16, 2005 @ 9:21 PM
This is great man, songwriting is poetic, great production too. Absolutely love the guitar intro, well melody that recurrs, very pretty 
This one works for me on a frightening amount of levels. What a gift you have.  Where the hell have I been? There's a question.
Cool ending. Water... water...
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 eagleman3074
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Date: October 27, 2005 @ 7:31 PM
Gene: this is ron hey man that is great stuff cant believe thats you Keep up the great work
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 Alstroph
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Date: October 28, 2005 @ 10:24 AM
I really like the guitar playing and harmonizing voices. Beautiful song. Calming, soothing and really, really nice to listen to!
your stuff is really good (i've listened to the others already) keep uploading stuff, it's awesome.
lol, like the ending too.
Love the Minister of Scissors
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imemine
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Date: November 1, 2005 @ 12:35 PM
The acoustic is sweet and there is a big bottom to this. Someone up there mentioned Cat Stevens----I’d have to agree a little. It took me a bit to acclimate to the voice but now I see it fits perfectly. Very mellow and peaceful. Nice message!
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ShadowMom
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Date: November 2, 2005 @ 12:46 AM
Wow! I can't believe it took me this long to get here...but now I'm here...and I'm thinking about staying....I love the ending, but coming from Florida, this really rocks! You've been here, right? Tell the truth.... beautiful song!
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eagleman3074
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Date: November 2, 2005 @ 6:25 PM
wife liked the music she says its awesome and alot of wows keep up the freat work
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Distilled1
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Date: November 6, 2005 @ 1:35 PM
I like this alot reminds me of some early Pink Floyd stuff. Very Relaxing and even though the drums seem a-bit out of place with the soothing guitar they go with the song overall Like the vocals/lyrics also
Playlisted indeed
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DaveWL
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Date: November 8, 2005 @ 12:22 PM
This is wonderful. Like every great song I ever heard about the sun but this one is about rain- I guess rain is at least as important as sun in the whole scheme of things.. I love that bassy guitar riff in the chorus. Reminded me a little bit of Burl Ives but much cooler and rockier. Great feel good record.
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eagleman3074
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Date: November 8, 2005 @ 5:23 PM
hello gene hey on chris page you have to get a licence from microsoft I guess there something on there that only a few people can listen to it at a time I guess
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songbird
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Date: November 13, 2005 @ 3:39 PM
Waiting for the summer rain...wooo...cool song!!
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AppleJuice
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Date: November 22, 2005 @ 2:46 PM
Hey man, I love the guitar. Has a real cool vibe to it. Wow, the lyrics sound real good, have an almost Pink Floyd type of vibe to it. It's so happy and the guitar riffs are flowin super. Drum beat's good with the song for sure.
The claps give it a real happy mood mayne. All-around, a great track dude!
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Notary04
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Date: November 27, 2005 @ 1:06 PM
I love the this theme! It makes for a wonderful instrumental break between the verses (which are delivered in an interesting style, to say the least. Props!). The vocals aren't always intelligible, but they sound great, especially in the chorus "...the summer rain!" Nice drums. I have no idea what you're saying in the conclusion, but the rain sample is a wonderful (albeit predictable) touch. Nice job!
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thought-fox
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Date: November 30, 2005 @ 7:36 PM
First off, I just love the title! Evansorchid made the same mistake as me to begin (she thought you were singing 'Submarine') but I quickly realise this is 'summer rain'. I really like the effects you have on the vocals, and I like what I think are hand-claps. Ahhh sound effects! Yes! Great! The talking part is really dramatic. It makes me think of native indians and rain dances - there's something in the tone that's shaman chant like. Loving it! Not very eloquent tonight, but I really like this!
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thought-fox
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Date: November 30, 2005 @ 7:37 PM
Oh, and I should have said how atmospheric and gentle it is, just like summer rain!
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Swampman
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Date: December 3, 2005 @ 7:35 AM
To cool nice trx cuz sounds great good production well done
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guitaroo
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Date: December 3, 2005 @ 10:08 AM
^yeah Kate! I really like this one a lot...it's probably my favorite of yours This will be playlisted!
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BOWILLIE
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Date: December 3, 2005 @ 2:11 PM
ah!!!..this vocal feels of mark knopfler for some reason..
cool vocal cadence..and lyrically very cool. production as well!!!
very sweet to the ears!!
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Britmick
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Date: December 4, 2005 @ 6:42 AM
I was tapping me foot, with a smile on my face.
Nothing wrong with this mate,
Ought to be on the radio, NOW
Made me feel all warm and comfy.
Top Notch stuff.
Gold stars mate.
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Writtenred
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Date: December 9, 2005 @ 11:58 AM
Who is everybody on here so good? Barring like 1 or 2 everything i've listened to today has been high quality. Excellent song, no exeption here. good work man
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GTOriginal
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Date: December 9, 2005 @ 6:27 PM
Revisiting. OK, it's on my PC & MP3 Player too. But no place to comment on it there  One of the BEST songs on DMusic, I think. Definately in the top uh... one.
Gary
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 LeNoraJaye
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Date: December 13, 2005 @ 8:29 PM
You know, I downloaded this song weeks ago & didn't remember who it was! I thought "what a groovy song - who is this?" I love the guitar & the harmonies...it's kinda hypnotic. (i love songs about rain )
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3Dboy
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Date: December 16, 2005 @ 9:54 PM
mezmorizing hypnotic type feel... real pink floydish... great song
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KingOfFoolz
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Date: December 18, 2005 @ 5:26 PM
I came by and heard this before.. or it could've been through ron too.. and i absolutely loved the vocals... and... that hasn't changed at all. the guitar parts are are subtle. the drumming is fantastic... and the verbed handclaps... the perfect mix of originality and listenability.. awesome stuff
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Storebought
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Date: December 19, 2005 @ 8:37 PM
I really like this - sounds like floyd but a bit dirtyer. Nice stuff.
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celtaidd
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Date: December 30, 2005 @ 8:10 PM
Just one word for it; Beautiful
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kingo
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Date: January 2, 2006 @ 7:36 PM
This is a great song, the melodies are excellent. The melodies and phrasing where you're singing "waiting for summer rain" in the verses is wonderful.
The vocal percussion stuff that comes in somewhere around 2 minutes is very cool. There's a lot of stuff here to hear, and I'm glad I'm here hearing it. Nice track.
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Droquen
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Date: January 12, 2006 @ 4:43 PM
This song is so relaxing. I love the acoustic work on the intro and those handclaps! This is a very cool track
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ClashCityRoc...
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Date: January 25, 2006 @ 3:42 PM
i don't really know what i can add, so I'll just say it was brilliant.
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Britmick
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Date: January 28, 2006 @ 6:38 PM
Had to come back and listen again.
I adore this.
I'm gonna download this and play it whenever I like
Me and Traf have much the same tastes
I knew he'd like it.
One of those songs I'd wish I'd writen.
I can imagine you playing this live too.
Water.....water......water
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dixondrumer
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Date: January 28, 2006 @ 11:30 PM
hey hey just had to come back and listen to this macter peice great job
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gurdonark
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Date: January 29, 2006 @ 8:00 PM
A gorgeous guitar intro to this one.
Great twinned vocals get things rolling.
"waiting for the Summer rain"--I have that feeling all the time--that sense that there'll be a break, a mist, the scent of far-off approach, and then the release.
The world does just keep on turning sometimes.
The pacing of this one fits its lyrics very well.
The guitar lines almost have a tenderness about them. I like that a lot.
Listening to this song is anything but a dire situation.
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dsindel
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Date: January 29, 2006 @ 11:38 PM
wow, half of DM is here already..
But never too late to join the party now is it???
Very clever pop sensibilities here on this track...
nice 60 - 70's feel to the track!
Brings me back to the music I grew up with as a kid...
very good production here!
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tooles
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Date: February 8, 2006 @ 1:53 AM
Wow, now THIS is more like it. This is so well realized, reminds me so much of Dire Straits and GunsNRoses, but has such an original style. Great great lyrical work, your voice sounds so much more up my alley than your first tune. Absolutely amazing, I will definitely be back to listen to this again.
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csaintg
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Date: February 26, 2006 @ 1:33 AM
I don't think I have ever seen this many replies to one song on Dmusic.
Your vocals seem to have a Frank Zappa feel for me. We need more intrspective artists like him in this day and age.
I think a sound byte of Bruce Lee saying, "Be water my friend" would complete this.
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RocShaman
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Date: March 21, 2006 @ 9:23 PM
Add me to the list of: -wow, this is cool stuff!- guys. Very well done man. Love the bluesy feel and laid back arrangement. The production is Right There.
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BaBiKoLeAn
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Date: March 31, 2006 @ 10:17 PM
wow, this is quite incredible!
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BaBiKoLeAn
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Date: April 8, 2006 @ 12:57 AM
had to listen to this one again... i absolutely love it. it's like a cross between... james taylor and... the animals... or... i don't even know! you're completely your own! this is so awesome!
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milesov
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Date: May 19, 2006 @ 11:52 AM
nice track, good sounding acoustic work, reminded me of a current finger11 tune in parts and pink floyd's acoustic work in others. this is a really good song.
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Nuttbuster
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Date: May 21, 2006 @ 7:02 PM
this is very nice man, i love the guitar playin here. very soothing. great work my man
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 fastlyrics
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Date: May 21, 2006 @ 9:10 PM
nice nice
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Jessy
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Date: May 27, 2006 @ 1:05 PM
Wow! Love this one. So cool.
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strum
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Date: September 11, 2006 @ 11:19 PM
i just keep coming back to this one... one beautiful piece
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joycedavis
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Date: September 14, 2006 @ 6:24 PM
i'm amazed at the number of comments on your excellent song! doo dah! this was a very well written, and aptly delivered tune. i love the quality of your vocals and great acoustic. the different drum sounds make this dance. i really really like it along with thousands, (i think 90 now) others! it deserves it. --jd
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Bluenevus
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Date: September 22, 2006 @ 10:53 PM
I listened to a bunch of hard hitting tracks from you before this. What a change. Really shows your range. Awesome acoustics and cool vocals.
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HenriRoger
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Date: January 25, 2007 @ 4:55 PM
Wonderfull song
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CemeteryLawnboy
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Date: March 24, 2007 @ 3:28 PM
A beutiful, mellow song. I love the summer rain. I'm originally from California & it doesn't rain too much in the summer...But, I now live in Pennsylvania & it rains all the time (when it's not snowing). Love the vocal harmonies - nice flow. You have a nice, deep voice. Excellent job with the drum programming too! I'm glad I listened to this song. I wish everyday could be as serene
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gtr1960
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Date: March 31, 2007 @ 7:44 AM
I really like this song. It just has a very nice feel to it. great use of the stereo field. nice separation and very clean and crisp. This is just a great song if they had voting for songs I would give it a top vote.
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Matthew
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Date: March 31, 2007 @ 9:01 AM
Hi Gene, lovely intro, the vocals are really smooth. You have a lovely tone in your voice, it's very mellow and warm. I also like the vocals harmonizing you're doing.
I love the clapping at about 2:20,the whole thing has a really nice tempo, lovely percussion throughout. It comes together really well.
This song is so chilled, I think this is my favourite of yours. Well done man!
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TheElf
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Date: May 9, 2007 @ 7:43 AM
Nice blending of elements brought together in a great tune. You have a good voice, or whoever did the vocals.... Singing is not a strong point for me. Anyhow, great tune!
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GTOriginal
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Date: May 25, 2007 @ 9:06 PM
 Added to The Classic Connection.
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strum
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Date: June 10, 2007 @ 8:33 PM
Mine as well 
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aorpete
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Date: July 3, 2007 @ 2:02 PM
WAW! This is just PURE CLASS!!!
This is to-date my FAVORITE FarFor song!
Everything is just done to PERFECTION!
The acoustic guitars... the drums... even the ticking clock... but...
BEST OF ALL... The VOCALS!!!
Love the end too...
This is just the most AwEsOmE Track!
 PLAYLISTED!
DOWNLOADED!
ADDED AT THE TOP OF THE FARFORNOW LIST OF FAV TRACKS!
AwEsOmE!!!!!!!
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farfor44
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Date: July 3, 2007 @ 3:05 PM
OMG/~~~Thank you so much Peter for the awesome commentsI suddenly
feel the need to do more acoustic oriented
songs Thanks as well to all of U for
reviewing"Anthem to Rain"and for all the
wonderful comments~much love 
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Pete-SaintsD...
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Date: July 8, 2007 @ 10:21 AM
Beutiful melody and a lovely beat the words realy fit the song, AwSoMe just PeRfEcT!
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aorpete
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Date: September 3, 2007 @ 6:33 PM
Back for another BLAST of my FAV FarFor Track!!!
Still just BLOWS-ME-AWAY!!!
FLAWLESS!!!
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Scone
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Date: October 3, 2007 @ 1:54 AM
This is really a great song! I love the different sound effects. And guitar work is really clear and great. I LOVE the main guitar lick. I also love the lyrics! Very cool song!
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Ghostie
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Date: October 28, 2007 @ 4:59 PM
I wanted to be the person who gave you your first
This is a beautiful song.. fills my heart with peace ..just like you.. well most of the time
Excellent track Babe!
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Ghostie
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Date: October 28, 2007 @ 5:01 PM
 oops! 
100th comment!!!
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johnyprestige
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Date: March 29, 2008 @ 7:24 AM
this is mixed extremely well, its got such a warm sound, really good dynamics, just a good allround song.
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TheJuke
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Date: May 26, 2008 @ 2:37 AM
I like gentler music and this I truly enjoyed. Love the dark and slightly quirky vocal. Great song, very pleasing indeed.
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